In this live episode of No Prep Needed, host Adrienne Barker, MAS speaks with guest Debbie Longo, Executive Behavioral Coach, about the real drivers behind business performance, workplace culture, and leadership effectiveness.
Debbie explains why most organizational problems are not caused by the economy, the market, or external pressure—but by internal behavior patterns that go unaddressed at the leadership level. The conversation explores controlling management styles, inconsistent leadership, toxic workplace dynamics, employee burnout, and how these behaviors quietly erode morale, retention, and profitability.
Drawing on over 25 years of experience in executive and behavioral coaching, Debbie shares how changing behavior at the top creates measurable improvements across teams, company culture, and even life outside of work. This is an unscripted, real-time discussion focused on awareness, accountability, and practical change—without preparation, pitches, or rehearsed answers.
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So who do I have in front of me? Debbie Longo,
which by the way, I just love your name. Debbie,
who are you? We need to know. You have to introduce
yourself because I have no clue who you are.
So I'm an executive behavioral coach and I focus
on helping business owners and small business
owners, managers, executives help to increase
sales and profits. And how I do that is a hundred
different ways. But really to sum it up is I
help the team and the executive change their
behavior. When that happens, there's a lot of
things that can happen. So I feel that what's
the issue is what's happening inside the company,
not the fact that there's a recession. So therefore
my business went bankrupt. When I do that, I'm
focusing on what's outside of me and I'm using
that as a reason or an excuse. Call it what you
want, okay, to justify whatever is going down
in my business. or I didn't make a profit this
year so I had to hire fire a whole bunch of people
and now I'm not gonna make a profit the next
year because I don't have enough people now okay
so you could call it poor managing it doesn't
matter what you call it but the point is that
if I change the person and I change their behavior
and that like I said that happens a hundred different
ways which obviously we're not going to get into
podcast, but the point is that when I do these
things, this will increase sales and profits.
And not only that, it carries to my home. It
carries to my family, to my neighbor, when I'm
driving in the car, when I'm in the store. And
also I've been a life coach for a very long time,
over 25 years. And I've been doing this type
of work, helping all kinds of people. executives
and families. So I'm going to be starting a podcast
life coach for anybody. So we're going to combine
it life coach and business coach. And to me,
that's very important because I'm trying to help
as many people as I can. And it's going to be
a free podcast. Anybody could go on. There's
like a six question survey or whatever. But I
don't want to turn this into a sales thing. But
the point is that I really want to help people.
and i want businesses to succeed and i know any
business can succeed way over what their dreams
are. I love that i can see life coach for humans
if you haven't already created your artwork then
for anybody i like humans better i think it makes
it fun cuz when you said i'm like what you're
not gonna do life coach my dog or my gecko but
i want to say this so debbie i love what you
do because this is so interesting. In October
14th and 15th, I have a two day SWOT Summit.
I'm bringing back the SWOT and I have a new podcast
myself coming out, SWOT and Order. And a lot
of my community is on ChatterSocial. ChatterSocial
is an interactive audio video. platform that
allows us to do something like this or restream
so we're gonna be streaming from stream yard
and chatter social and i'm very excited and there's
just a lot of people are on it and if you like.
If you follow graham cardona or cindy stumble
you got some amazing leaders. that are on this
app and teaching other people. So you would be
amazing. But the reason I'm bringing this up
is going back to the swap strength, weaknesses,
opportunities, and threats. A lot of people don't
even think about that as a threat. Course, it's
a weakness, but you could turn it into an opportunity.
And I love this because I think that when you
are in the situation where things are trickling
down from the top, you don't even realize that
you're in a. Toxics workforce and you're right
and you're now just waking up and getting out
of bed stumble out of bed Pour myself like a
pot of coffee poured over my head because I got
to go to work now where everyone is miserable
and unhappy and I won't even get anything done.
I'm not even gonna say like I could see where
people will need you So I have a committee that
is picking the speakers, but I definitely would
like to add you And if you're interested please
go on chatter social chatter social let me put
it into the thing because chatter social. Has
a very much feels like an instagram by the way
i'm not i don't get paid or anything like that
i just love helping people too and i know that
when you're on an app like chatter social just
to change your life it changed my life like amazing
i am actually now just to brag for a second we
just launched on tuesday yesterday. our True
Crime Debate the News True Crime edition, because
I am a co -host. We do true crime. We have 40
episodes. We've already done since March. We
recorded two and we record them live. So there's
an audience. So you could do your podcast interview,
but you could record it live on chat social where
people can. It's not like a tick tock. It's a
little different. People can ask you the question.
So because this is huge, I also can see you.
doing a hundred like you use that number a hundred
ways and maybe you should do a hundred days of
because and just teach one point a day wouldn't
that be awesome so i love what you do so we're
going to share your website first of all 25 years
you are a life coach you know what's crazy debbie
is that i wish That i knew about life coaching
when twenty five years ago i would have been
sixty two three so do the math so in my late
thirties and forties i needed a life coach i
didn't even know the term so for those of you
that are in the younger generation and you got
access to life coaches my gosh and look at that
because now you're getting and i love when you
said that in the car the store cuz i think a
lot of people be like what does she mean no carry
yourself carry the behavior that you wanna see
in others is that what you're saying. It'll automatically
happen. It's not something that you have to,
you have to try it in the beginning to do the
coaching and what I teach and everything. The
plan, the outline, but once we do that, it'll
automatically happen because what I do at work
carries to my home. No matter what it is, negative
or positive, people don't even realize that,
but eventually that's what happens. And if you
are having troubles at work, right, you're going
to just bring home the frustrations. And so how
was your day? And then it's going to be bad.
You're going to kind of like throw up on that
person, all the negative things. And then that
leads to a negative evening, which is going to
lead to a negative morning the next morning.
So I love this. I love websites like this that
are very clear. So book a strategy call right
there. Cannot miss it. You guys and book this.
Is it a is it 30 minutes? Oh, the strategy call?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's probably around 30 minutes.
Yeah, maximum. People do strategy calls for like
10 minutes. I'm like, no, it's I need to know
a little bit of information. So it could be between
15 and 30 minutes. It depends on the person,
the situation. you know how i'm gonna get the
information because i need to know a certain
amount in order for me to make an outline a plan
a general one and then that way we could talk
about exactly how we're going to do it the sessions
different things because i do group i do a lot
of stuff i can do one on one so that's all included
i have packages there the packages are just general
because it really is tailor -made to the Company
to the client whatever because it could be a
million different situations. I'm not selling
a pair of sneakers Only a hair right where you
like the sneakers and you go online and you like
the brand then you buy it That's not what this
is. So it's a lot more detailed than that So
that's why there's a lot of information on that
website There might be too much TMI, but I've
been working on that website for a while. So
It's really the call and for me to talk to somebody
would really be the best way to do it. What's
funny there's all funnels funnels packages packages
links links you have a lot of links to link you
back to the about i don't know how i feel about
all of that because i just like. First of all,
I love that what you just said about like we
have to tailor packages to people. You can't
just and you don't like I wouldn't necessarily
want to work with someone who's just got the
solid package and nowhere does it say that I
can tailor it because maybe there's a couple
pieces. I don't know. Maybe maybe you're offering
something and I'm like, I don't really need marketing
and branding. It's in my blood. So what else?
You know what I mean? Like there's no the menus
get confusing. So I love what you said. Just
like let's meet and figure out what you need.
Not what I can. Yeah, sell to you. So I love
that. Awesome. I just love everything about this.
Yeah. So the thing is most people are specific
on one thing where they sell a product like websites
or market. But I don't do that because I have
so much experience in all different things, people,
situations. So I could make anything, anything.
And everybody has a personality, a behavior,
like you said, a human. I could say human. That's
a great suggestion because I mean, dogs really,
I mean, they have their own personality, but
it's not that big of a deal. I see it all the
time. Really, employees that are networking wrong
because they only have one goal and that's to
bring back leads to their sales manager that
is saying to them, go to that chamber meeting
and bring me as many leads as you can. And now
they're there. And instead of making and building
relationships, they're like, can I have your
business card? and they're like walking away
and they're like literally and especially if
they're young and not like have the wisdom. So
how would you address that when you and I'm sure
can you share like where you've seen that in
action where the manager manager the leader is
just making up making it very difficult for the
salesperson to have to create relationships time
rush rush rush. You met them on Monday. Do you
have the order yet? Like that kind of thing.
Well, the thing is, I noticed that when I go
into a store And that's a very common thing but
if you're talking about. Somebody coming to me
or asking for help or whatever that would have
to be part of what hour. solution would be and
what our end result would be. So if they have
a problem, I just say the opposite. So if they
say I have negativity that I want to get rid
of, I say we're going to turn that into positive.
So they say if I'm controlling my employees,
like you were talking about, if they're rushing
a lot, then I would say we're not going to we're
going to focus on not controlling. and appreciating
the employees more, which there's a hundred ways
to do this. And we're not going to rush. We're
going to be calm. We could do breathing. Did
you ever do a breathing meditation or just breathing?
I teach that you could do it right in the middle
of work. You take deep breaths. You breathe in
through your solar plexus, which is your gut.
And then you breathe out through. So you go.
long breath. And then you could do that three
times. You could do it while you're working,
anytime. Like you could like run in the back.
And so as soon as I get stressed out, if I do
that. What that does is that changes the level
of my energy at that time because if i'm stuck
in that right whether it's controlling or going
faster whatever that's good i can't get out of
that because i'm doing the same thing over and
over it's like a big circle so i need something
to get get out of that mindset to get out of
that level of energy. Show the breathing is it
easy cuz you can do that anytime but i mean there's
more to it than that but we want right there
is totally want to get rid of it you have to
remember to breathe. Like it's so funny i hear
you say that my daughter was just saying that
to me like mom you need to learn to breathe and
i like that i have to remember and then as you
were talking it hit me like giving like a band
like i can see you doing something that people
would have to remind them. To breathe like on
the computer sticker breathe or a little frame
that says don't forget to breathe cuz i could
see. that that's probably if you if you did a
little focus group, what's that? I mean, it's
the easiest and simplest and freest thing to
do. And yet in the midst of being so upset, you
got to remember, wait, I just got to take a second
to breathe. Excuse me. So I love that. So I think
you're teaching that and training yourself so
it becomes more natural is huge and simple. But
give us a story of want to hear the most toxic.
culture that you've ever witness in real life
that's not a lifetime movie network that's real
real the manager and the executives whoever they
are. The owners of the company that the highest
up you can possibly go are completely controlling
the employees one hundred percent and the employees
are so unhappy that day wake up in the morning
and they literally dread to go to work. Like
they're gonna go there and meet like the devil.
They hate it. He's controlling them because he's
telling them when they can. He's not following
the job duties at all. He's not following the
contract that they that they signed when they
first started working there. He's controlling
when they come to work, when they leave, when
they eat lunch. So he's changing it every single
day. So it's not like. You go to lunch at 12
o 'clock. Some days it's 12. Some days it's one.
So they get into work and they don't they have
no idea what's going to happen that day. That's
just the one thing. There's a lot of things still
is controlling what people say and when they
say it. So some of the business was like a phone
business, like a kind of like a call center kind
of thing. So then they wouldn't necessarily follow
the script. It's difficult for them to really
learn anything. So when you do something like
that What happens is well the big thing is that
you're burning out the employees and the employees
Dread to go to work because they have no system.
There's nothing that's regimented and the the
manager or the business owner just goes on a
whim and says Today we're gonna do this today
you gonna go to lunch here and the is constantly
changing it as the days go on and then what happens
people are popping and they're just quitting
they get burned out they have to go to work.
Because they need a paycheck and they have bills
they have mortgages to pay you know what i mean
they have to buy food so they can't now they
can't quit until they find another job. Can't
go without a paycheck for weeks and weeks and
weeks so they suffer through this but now the
company is losing a lot of money not only because
people are quitting. First of all they're losing
money because this guy is so controlling that
he's changing everything every five seconds that's
the first thing the second thing is that when
people quit a lot of people. Especially within
a short period of time the company's gonna lose
money because they don't have enough employees
to run their business doesn't matter what kind
of business it is and then they have to hire
new people and then they're spending more money
on training and that's a waste of money because
in two months the person's gonna leave again
and then they have to hire more people and then
they gonna spend more money on training. And
that's a cycle but the manager needs to know
how to get rid of that and like what you said
when you brush your teeth in the morning. Do
you think about it i just wake up and i brush
my teeth i don't think about it that's how this
has to be it's an unconscious thing. Where i'm
so used to it i do it automatically whether it's
the breathing or whatever and that. can happen.
It sounds like it's a lot, you know what I mean,
especially if somebody's really that far away
from this. But that's not true. It can happen
because I know how to teach that person. And
a lot of times it doesn't take that long. So
if you're listening, you're like, no way nobody's
that controlling at work. First of all, I just
want to address one of the things. Oftentimes,
these are companies that pay very well. They
pay very well because they believe that I'm paying
you well enough that you need to take my call
at 10 p .m. You need to follow what I say. Why
are you caring about a schedule? I'm paying you
well. It's like at the end of the day, this is
what I believe. And I have 35 years in the business
and growing up in a family business. I really,
from what I've witnessed, that is really clearly
because that's where you get caught. If you're
not paid very well, then there's really nothing
you say. Other do it for a couple weeks. You
sell your family. I've got indeed and I've got
LinkedIn. You know what I mean? I've got a career
coach helping me. I'm going to get out of here,
but when you're paid really well, then it's different.
Honey, I know it's driving me crazy. I know I'm
coming home miserable every day, but look at
I'm able to support the house. We're able to
take our vacation. I gotta just let him be who
he is. And because one of the hardest things
that I would imagine when you're sitting down,
you're telling someone your personality sucks
and you need to develop this personality. And
I know you're not saying it that way, obviously,
but in essence, it's like, you got to do a reality
check. You can't be narcissistic or you can't
be controlling or now you got to find out why
they're controlling it. And so, wow. But I love
that that falls into the whole SWAT too. And
the owners usually are not as involved either.
So the owners are could be the owner obviously
but sometimes the owner when you have a missing
owner like right then that leader can get a little
bit more aggressive the manager and like what
they feel am i talking out of my mouth or my
butt and i have no idea or do you agree with
what i'm saying i agree one hundred percent and
another thing he did was he said to his employees
oh. You could forward the number of the company
number to your cell phone like while you're working
and stuff but the problem with that is they never
on forwarded the number so people were calling
at night and they were calling on the weekends
and they would answer the phone for their business.
for the company and they would never get paid
for that and then they forwarded their email
to their personal email the company's email and
then they were answering emails like on the weekend
like they were doctor i was like crazy the other
than knowing jerry's not night. So managers just
lost you got to go in and you in essence have
to be a doctor You got to teach them right how
to change their behavior because how it can affect
and that's really a trigger as we said It's not
just offending the employee. It's everyone that
that ploy so you're right the store in the car
I mean the stress that you're under Wow This
is so fascinating because it's like we all kind
of know it but we don't think about it and how
so What do you recommend for employee? that's
like oh my god i really or your family member
you're like oh my god this is like. Like do they
just reach out to you and say can they get the
strategic like i think i could talk my employer
or my direct manager is fantastic but all the
other ones are bringing everyone down. How do
you get a crime you for help did you ever hear
of everybody must hit bottom so what happens
is like to me i don't want this to happen to
anybody. But the perfect scenario is my whole
entire company is completely out of control and
i don't know what to do and i already filed bankruptcy
one time and now i'm getting ready to go out
of business and if i do that i will not have
money to feed my family and i will have no company.
and i will have no job so if you wait to get
to that point i don't want anybody to get to
that point but if somebody is there then they're
gonna be extremely willing to do anything because
they'll tell me well. I'll do anything just tell
me what to do and i'll do it if the company is
doing good there are the problems like i said
the employee turnover but if the company realizes
what that there is. friction or people controlling
people or negativity or fear or different things.
If the company realizes this way before there's
bankruptcy or they're spending extra money on
training or they're losing a lot of money, then
that's a good thing because then they will seek
out the help and then they will try to say to
themselves, I'm going to do this. I don't want
to do it. And the other thing too, is I'm gonna
tell some you guys something that a lot of people
don't know take big companies very big companies
i'm not gonna say the company's names tech companies
the biggest tech companies in the world think
of one is not that difficult. The reason why
these tech companies do so well is because they
have coaches they have mentors they have coaches
that coach the whole entire business the managers
the supervisors the employees everybody down
to the janitor all the way down to the person
that sweeps the floor that's the reason why.
They're this successful and they have lectures
a coach will go into this company and they will
do a lecture one lecture they charge a hundred
thousand dollars these coaches for one lecture
and this is the reality so these companies did
not not doing this well because they're lucky.
They have the greatest product that's not the
reason why it's because they constantly pump
this positive energy this positive attitude into
the employees and the supervisors and the managers
every single day. And whether that person's negative
or not i can control what that person does when
they leave the office. I'm hoping they'll carry
that over. I'm saying it's automatic, which nine
times out of 10 it is. And I just know that from
experience, but that's not every single person
on earth. Some people that doesn't happen to,
which is rare, but now what's going to happen
is that they're going to go to work and they're
going to be negative because their family is
negative. Let's say they wake up in the morning
and their kids are fighting. They're throwing.
Before school, they're throwing stuff at them
at each other when they are like really, really
super like unbelievable. And then, so she goes
into work, the, the employee, whether it's a
he or she goes into work with this negativity.
So now they have to change. You know what I mean?
They have to do this every single day. That's
not easy. That's why I teach it where they're
going to work on it and they're going to. Do
it all day long where it becomes automatic like
it's brushing your teeth. Not all coaches do
it this way. I do something completely different
than the way other coaches work and I do it this
way and I have this type of specific experience
for this and this is the most 100 % effective
way because listen, I love everybody and I think
everybody's fantastic. But if I teach you something,
I never want to hear from you again because if
I am You're constantly coming back to me. I'm
not like a therapist where you need to come back
to me in order for me to make money I don't want
to say anything bad about therapists But in my
experience a lot of them did that because I'm
gonna put food on their table but if the idea
is for them for me to teach them and they practice
it in their life and then they don't come back
to me what happens then that enables me to get
more clients you know why because i'm producing
this type of energy into the atmosphere into
the universe where i truly am doing something
that i want people to help. That that's gonna
be a positive thing where people are gonna help
each other and i'm not doing it for my own selfish
and i'm not doing it so i can make money and
i can make a paycheck that's not i need money.
I have bills just like everybody else does. But
that's not why I'm doing it. And when I produce
that type of energy and I give money away, I
give to charities, all these unselfish acts,
I give my employees bonuses, there's a million
things that I could think of. When I do these
things, not putting myself first, I'm putting
myself either second or third. And I'm putting
my employees and my family first and then that
I will get. That will give me more business that
will give me the clients and they'll all be positive.
But here's the problem with that is that I have
to learn how to change myself in order for me
to do that. I can't be a negative person where
my, my company is like going to go bankrupt tomorrow.
And then all of a sudden I wake up one morning
and I'm like, I'm not going to be selfish anymore.
I'm going to give a bonus. You know what I mean?
That's not how it works. I wanna be able to do
this all the time where this is now gonna become
the way i practice my business and in order for
me to do that that my whole entire behavior every
single thing i do has to change and that's why
somebody who really has a bottom. Their business
is gonna go down tomorrow those are the best
people to work with not saying that anybody is
easy to work with. You know, as long as they
want it, but those are going to be the most willing,
you know, and that's just from my experience,
you know, but anybody's really willing. I love
it. So so you guys, we heard exactly who Debbie's
avatar is. So we know how to recommend her. If
you are an employee in the situation of toxic,
you can reach out to Debbie for life coaching,
which will really help you to determine if you
should stay or go, I think, really, and what's
going to make you more fulfilled and successful.
So. Time to say goodbye have a great rest of
the day debbie i love that you're brave and you're
bold and you're beautiful and you're right next
to me. Amazing is there anything else you want
to add before i end the stream now they can get
in touch with me on life and bloom you had the
website and everything up there it's life in
bloom and why dot net that's where all my information
is gonna be. Perfect i love it thank you.